Rogered!

This is the headline that I really, really hope I don’t have to use again after the election.

But, looking at the latest Roy Morgan Poll, there is a possiblity of something very very nasty happening post election.

Look at the ACT poll rating. It is sufficent to make Roger Douglas an MP again. And it also means, on this poll, and several others, that the support of ACT will be essential to National leading a Government.

Which raises the question of whether National’s “no privatisation in the first term” promise is a bottom line.

What if Rodney & Roger put the hard word on the Nats? “Sell it all“, or at least some of it, or we won’t support you to form a Government?

National needs to come clean about this – is their “no privatisation” policy a bottom line, or will they trade it away and let Roger back into Cabinet if they need ACT to form a Government.

I would suggest that unless National clarifies this, all New Zealanders should be afraid – very afraid!

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9 thoughts on “Rogered!

  1. Josh, Muldoon did indeed leave a right f**king mess.

    But Roger exploited that to pursue his “There Is No Alternative” line to advance his own ideological programme for privatisation and minimising the State..

    When clearly there were many, other ways of dealing with the mess that Muldoon left behind.

    And apart form themassive unemployment that Roger’s agenda created, how is it that the privatised railways and Air New Zealand were asset stripped, under-invested, and failed – and had to be renationalised or we would have had almost no rail or air services left at all.

  2. toad,

    You keep going on about alternatives to rogernomics.

    Care to outline your alternative?

  3. Gerrit, some of what Douglas did had to be done.

    Like repeal of the Economic Stabilisation Act, floating the dollar, introducing GST (hell, I would want to go a lot further in broadening the tax base – like introducing taxes on waste, pollution and capital gains, and even on energy use – thereby reducing taxes on enterprise and employment.

    But Douglas was driven by an ideological perspective that the private sectorcould do eveything better – therefore the privatisations under the fourth Labour Government and the subsequent National one.

    Almost all – Air NZ, Railways (that failed as private businesses and had to be re-nationalised), Telecom (one of the the slowest internet services in the developed world), Electicorp (electricity prices doubled) have been an abject disaster, Richardsons’ benefit cuts that we are still paying the social price for a generation on.

    Sure, there were parts of what Douglas and (to a lesser extent) Richardson did that had to happen.

    But there were also those that did not need to happen, were ideologically driven, and have now left NZ with some severe problems to still tackle.

  4. Is that Don Brash’s head I see Sir Roger patting in the pic? Looks like him, but cant quite make it out?

  5. Your arguement, and I mean this with respect – sounds exactly what came out of my professors mouth in my Pols 101 class. TINA and all that.

    How can you be opposed to somebody having an agenda when you’re perfectly ok with Labour having an agenda to protect itself in power by spending massive surpluses to line their nest? And they screwed the Greens for years, throwing you a few bare bones for support.

    Surely you’d support an agenda that encouraged people to be excited about saving the planet rather than forcing them through higher taxes and compulsion? Tax incentives work far better than tax grabs. I sigh that the Green movement has been captured by the ex commies and the left. I has turned into a circus!

  6. Toad,

    Roger did what had to be done in 1984. It was that or bankruptcy and having the IMF do it for us, and that would have been a lot harder to follow. Same thing in 1990 when National inherited a country on the brink of bankruptcy, and a recession to boot. I would have liked it if they had had money to spend during the recession on infrastructure especially, but the cupboard was bare – so bare they had to cut welfare spending.

    Fast forward to 2008, and we see history repeating itself, except this time National has promised themselves out of the ability to make tough calls to cut government spending and lighten the load on the economy during the recession.

    Act are the only party that can make the tough calls this time around. A strong influence on government would help, and I’d urge anyone who cares about NZ and our sovereignty to vote constructively for Act this election. Roger may be merely a symbolic vote catcher, but also a timely reminder that we need some thick skinned politicians to make the hard calls in desperate times.

    And these are fast becoming desperate times.

  7. mavxp said: Roger did what had to be done in 1984. … Same thing in 1990 when National inherited a country on the brink of bankruptcy,

    Um, who was the Minister of Finance for the vast majority of the 1984-90 Labour Government mavxp?

    He “did what had to be done”, but left a “country on the brink of bankruptcy” – don’t you see the contradiction in what you are saying?

  8. Clint:

    How can you be opposed to somebody having an agenda when you’re perfectly ok with Labour having an agenda to protect itself in power by spending massive surpluses to line their nest? And they screwed the Greens for years, throwing you a few bare bones for support.

    Surely you’d support an agenda that encouraged people to be excited about saving the planet rather than forcing them through higher taxes and compulsion? Tax incentives work far better than tax grabs. I sigh that the Green movement has been captured by the ex commies and the left. I has turned into a circus!

    If the spending is on things that will help us out in the long term, (or are going to have real and immediate impact for the most hard-hit NZers in the short term) that’s fine.

    The problem is that National spends frivolously (and possibly even counter to its own purpose!) to “prime the growth engines of the economy” with its tax cuts, when our economy already consumes resources faster than they can renew.

    Remember when politics was about doing the right thing? When you could say “Ask not what America can do for you, but what you can do for America?” I’m afraid the Greens do believe that sometimes we should be honest and say when New Zealand- or even the whole planet- might need us to step up and make a few sacrifices for the greater good. The physics of politics are such that you can’t do anything without pleasing someone and annoying someone else. I’m quite sure it can’t all be about getting more for everyone, sadly, but we would go for it if we could think of a practical and fair plan to do so. Got any perpetual motion machines for us? 😛 I’d even accept a way to save to planet and cut back our resource use and pollution to indefinitely sustainable levels while still giving kiwis more. But I think you’ll have a hard time coming up with better solutions than the party, as we all think about this sort of thing a bit.

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