Is Vote for Change sinking even before it sets sail

Aside

It’s interesting to see the disarray that the Vote for Change folk seem to be in. Yesterday’s Kiwiblog post on them has pictures of two crowd-sourced billboards – neither of which are logical*, let alone compelling. And then the comments underneath seem to be running majority in favour of MMP. If Vote for Change can’t muster a simple majority (ha ha) among the Kiwiblog comments you wonder where they are planning to get their support.

$10,000 in prize money to promote something, anything, we’re still not quite sure what yet, so long as it makes sure that some people’s votes are worth more than other people’s.

*e.g. the first billboard seems to have forgotten that Winston Peters came to power and prominence under First Past the Post, then lost his seat under MMP. And, as for the second billboard, surely the concern is supposed to be that tails wag dogs not that dogs wag tails?

Only one party… the National Party

Nazi anti-MMP campaigner Alex Fogerty doesn’t seem content with returning to the two-party dictatorship of FPP or its bastard cousin SM.  Here he is on the Lower North Island Young Nats’ Facebook page a couple of months ago, apparently advocating a one party state:

The anti-MMP group Vote for Change have been quick to dissociate themselves from Fogerty (although not quick enough to avoid losing their sole founding member who was not a hard right winger, former Waitakere Mayor Bob Harvey).

It will be interesting to see if the National Party and the Young Nats do the same. Or do they tolerate Nazi creeps like this in their midst?

Update (2.10pm): Well, that was quick.  Fogerty’s comment has now been removed from the Lower North Island Young Nats’ FB page.

A neo-Nazi wolf in the anti-democratic “sheep” muster

Thanks to Bomber Bradbury, the name of Alex Fogerty has come to the fore as one of the 16 founding members of the “Vote for Change” campaign against MMP.  Fogerty is a neo-Nazi.

Here’s one of the evil faces of bigotry:

A post from Fogerty in April 2005, which he confirmed to the Nelson Mail that he wrote, reads: “I’d love to get rid of all Jews, blacks, gypsies, retards and social degenerates, I would love to have genetic cleansing.”

His message added that genetic cleansing did not mean killing anyone, just forcibly removing them from a country.

Mr Fogerty said he had made some comments on the internet he now regretted.

Fight Dem Back had taken these comments, including the one on genetic cleansing and another where he congratulated Australian groups for the increasing attacks on Jews, out of context, he said.

The comments were made in private and freedom of speech meant he could make them, he said.

He was not racist and had talked to “every ethnic group”, but did not agree with New Zealand’s immigration policy, and thought some of the Nazis’ ideas were good (my emphasis).

Great poster boy for the anti-MMP campaign, huh?

And great pick for one of your 16 founding members, Peter Shirtcliffe, Michael Bassett, and the rest of the “Vote of Change” founders!  I guess Mussolini’s concept of the Corporate State isn’t lost on you after all.