The racist underbelly

The Springbok Tour is now 28 years in the past. It was a very sad time for New Zealand, as Rob Muldoon exploited the racist underbelly of our society to win a third term as Prime Minister.

But occasionally we get a reminder of what lurks beneath the facade of amicable race relations in New Zealand. The relatively trivial matter of the NZ Geographic Board deciding to correct an historic spelling mistake in the name of the district of Whanganui should attract hardly any attention at all. But Whanganui’s mayor Michael Laws, for whatever reason, is stoking the fires of bigotry.

And look what crawls out of the cesspit on a Kiwiblog comments thread on the subject:

I can’t believe this crap, maori had no written language until whitey arrived, how dare they try to force their idea of spelling when most of them can’t spell anyway, I say good on you Laws, stick to your guns

What gets me about this whole (sorry fole) load of crap concerning Mhaori getting septic about how us honkys pronounce their near unintelligible babble is that we are speaking english when we talk of places in NZ not speaking mhaori.

Maori shouldn’t have any right to tell the country how to pronounce or spell anything. They are a minority – is that clear enough for you dickhead?

…Maori didn’t have a written language till us whiteys got here, so you can take a phlying ph%$k at a rolling donut, dickhead.

Perhaps Ken Mair should be forced to change his surname back to it’s correct French origin spelling of “Maire”?

Bang that mowree drum. I will spell and pronounce mowree as I wish.
Just the same as mowree do with the mainstream language in NZ.
K bros
tina coco car tower

When it comes to pass Jack old mhaori tohunga will wisely say “The koha will flow as the waters of the Whanganui into the greedy grasp of the Tangata Whenua–inflation adjusted of course”

I am constantly amazed at what is important to Mowree, so much time, effort, emotion and bullshit expended on “H”

The only saving grace for New Zealanders per se is that the Chinese population of New Zealand will push the Maori into third.

The Maori are an embarrassment for New Zealand, they are violent, resentful, lazy and racist.

I think Wanganui as a city had more to lose from a name change than this vocal minority of Maori half-breed sepratists/activists had to gain.

Yes, sadly that New Zealand is still out there. It makes me wonder if we have made much progress at all in the last 28 years.

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17 thoughts on “The racist underbelly

  1. You seem to be overlooking the fact that you have displayed 10 out of almost 150 comments from that thread toad. There are plenty of comments supporting the Geographical Board’s decision as well. But of course, that wouldn’t dovetail with your agenda, would it?

  2. Inventory2, I wasn’t denigrating the Kiwiblog comments thread or accusing Farrar of stirring this up. I think he’s taken a responsible approach to the issue.

    What I was attempting to highlight is that there is still a neanderthalic racist underbelly out there, some of whom lurk on the Kiwiblog comments thread, and that Laws is deliberately stirring them up.

  3. I think the comment about the spelling of Ken Mair’s surname is reasonable (it’s the only one I agree with). If he considers it’s important to get the spelling of the city’s name back to its original form, why doesn’t he think the same about his own surname?

    By the same reasoning, if Michael Laws is so incensed by a silent h in whanganui, he really should get rid of the silent h in his own name.

  4. I work in an office full of people like that. They seem genuinely furious but I wonder if its not some sort of psychological displacement of fear. The H story is an interesting side show to sit and watch because National Ltd is skewered which ever way it jumps. But, you’re right, that insidious underbelly is never far away and, I fear, the veneer of tolerance is becoming thinner and thinner as the economic despression and the employers’ tactics begin to turn us against each other. Makes us easier to control if we’re scared and fighting amongst ourselves, I guess.

  5. Before the settlers who founded the city took the name ‘wanganui’, they called it ‘Peter’ (though they spelled this ‘Petre’), and before that, ‘Garrison Town’.

  6. BLiP & kahikatea – I thought Burt was asking what it was called before Māori settled there.

    In which case the answer is that it didn’t have a name, because there is no evidence that anyone lived there before Māori.

  7. I see your point but to honour this comment by repeating it is a bit much. The unfortunate thing about this whole affair is that there’s a lot of interesting history and cultural things we could have learnt about — different tribes pronouncing words different ways, the original English/Maori who came up with the Maori writing system, the fact that in 1902(?) they were debating the exact same thing! NZ pakeha (European if they prefer) and Maori have a long history together, eh
    And of course its important, its about power, the power to name a place.

  8. They could always call it Lhawsville and pass an bill under urgency to make Michael Laws Mayor for Life.

  9. Be grateful toad that you can see part of the racial underbelly. The part you can see is maily white colonials derived from early settlers.

    There is a whole lot more that is hardly registering and these are recent immigrants of chinese, indian, pacific island, african, etc. decent.

    To them the whole Maori grievance and sovereigntry is just a quant sideshow.

    These populations are not in the slightest interested in the Maori bit nor have the guilt trip complex the early settlers carry on their backs.

    As one commentator said on kiwiblog (great promotion of an alternative blog by the way toad), chinese will outnumber Maori before long.

    The balance of power BASED ON GUILT COMPLEXES will shift but not in favour of the guiltripping whites nor angst ridden Maori.

    Soon a large portion of the public will not give a toss about the Maori grievance industry.

  10. Gerrit, the term Maori grievance industry is pretty damn disgusting, and that kind of mud-slinging is uncalled for. If this were my post I’d have moderated that. 😛

  11. Ari,

    One persons perception is anothers aboration.

    And that is the problem the whole “industry” around Maori grievances rectification process.

    Maori take it seriously because they cant face the future without lining up and correcting the past, Pakeha do for the easing of guilt, but increasingly larger portions of the New Zealand population it is another yawn.

    Maori grievances about past injustices while real to them, are simply not important to more recent immigrants.

    You should be more worried about that fact then some poetic prose I write.

    And calling anyone who questions the Maori grievance rectification “process” a racist is actually turning people away from the cause.

    Everytime the “process” is questions that racism card is played.

    See, call me a racist often enough, and I will fulfill your desire by being one.

    If toad wants to moderate my statements, that is his freedom.

    Remembering that removing my comments on this posting will not make the problem go away.

    So we can either have a discussion about it or you can bury head in the sand and pretend that a growing segment of population in New Zealand find the Maori grievance issue, irrelavant.

  12. Gerrit said: There is a whole lot more that is hardly registering and these are recent immigrants of chinese, indian, pacific island, african, etc. decent. To them the whole Maori grievance and sovereigntry is just a quant sideshow.

    Gerrit, I’ve long advocated that voluntary migrants should be required to commit to undergoing an orientation programme, including education about Te Tiriti o Waitangi, as a condition of being granted permanent residency. It is most unfortunate that many new New Zealanders have no idea of the constitional and cultural basis of this country, and I agree that does not bode well for future race relations.

    Ari, given that I started the thread off by quoting some extremely offensive comments from Kiwiblog, I think I should be rather tolerant of what gets posted as comments in response. My approach to moderation for offensiveness is that if the commenter puts up an actual argument (which Gerrit has, albeit one I think is largely wrong) I’ll be more tolerant that if they present no argument but just deliberately set out to offend.

  13. It’s a pity whenever an issue like Whanganui comes up it gives an excuse for all the Maori bashers to vent their poison. As a ‘white’ N’Zdr I have come to embrace most things maori – it’s a pity us white folks bought so much crap with us when we came.

  14. Good point Gerrit, my wife is Asian and when she walks down the street someone driving past calls out: “go home!”.

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