Comments on: Alcohol and assault

By: stevedore

stevedore — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:58:22 +0000

Ka pai Mark.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:52:17 +0000

The idea that men have so little self-control that they cannot resist young, drunken women, hence women should have “personal responsibility” and not get drunk, is insulting to men.

By: toad

toad — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:40:33 +0000

Just the ones who stalk and assault women Altruist.

But it is men, not women, who need to demonstrate more personal responsibility in this regard.

By: Altruist

Altruist — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:01:04 +0000

So what is your solution toad? Lock up all men?
Get a grip.

By: toad

toad — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:02:15 +0000

ZT, you’re putting up a similar argument to those who say women shouldn’t wear scanty clothing or shouldn’t walk home at night because they are “asking for it”.

A woman, however she’s dressed, wherever and whenever she walks, and whatever her state of intoxication, should be safe from sexual assault. Personal responsibility is invovled – but it is that of men to respect women, rather than abuse them.

By: ZenTiger

ZenTiger — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:00:33 +0000

but too often their first instinct is to talk blamingly about the irresponsible women who are victims of assault rather than the vicious men who are the perpetrators.

I don’t see this as blaming the women, I see this as advising of the consequences of ones actions. That’s not blame, you are merely interpreting this as blame.

This is a key point about personal responsibility. You can blame the criminals all you like, but the end result is these women have to live with the consequences. If they made different choices, they might not have this burden.

Should women be able to get blind drunk and be safe? Perhaps, but that’s not the world we live in. Getting the message out there that getting blind drunk puts you at risk is a good way of protecting these people.

By: Check

Check — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:15:37 +0000

“There’s been a shift in emphasis towards getting drunk quickly” – a shift towards? Our county started open-throating pints back in the day during the six o’clock swill. We may drink more today (and women drink a hell of a lot more), but our ‘drinking culture’ no longer enjoys the bloody minded focus on sinking as much piss as one can in forty minutes after work.