Comments on: ACT – the party of hypocrisy on property rights http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/ a community of green voices Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:11:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ari http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-976 Ari Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:12:24 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-976 Katie: It's essentially a little girl who looks a bit like Aila, in the same clothes on the same background, lecturing New Zealanders on how we shouldn't have more rules and regulations if we want to be clean and green. (I have no idea how Act thinks we'll reverse our current trend of pollution and over-consumption, maybe through the second coming) They run the tired old line of "if you try to implement your sensible progressive policies, I'll emigrate to australia" at which point the only good idea about the whole ad is demonstrated when the little girl briefly disappears, before the announcer makes an appeal to National voters who hang out on kiwiblog by saying "vote real green, not watermelon green". This shows you that Act really has no idea about how to recruit new voters from anywhere but the extreme right of National's base. Katie: It’s essentially a little girl who looks a bit like Aila, in the same clothes on the same background, lecturing New Zealanders on how we shouldn’t have more rules and regulations if we want to be clean and green. (I have no idea how Act thinks we’ll reverse our current trend of pollution and over-consumption, maybe through the second coming)

They run the tired old line of “if you try to implement your sensible progressive policies, I’ll emigrate to australia” at which point the only good idea about the whole ad is demonstrated when the little girl briefly disappears, before the announcer makes an appeal to National voters who hang out on kiwiblog by saying “vote real green, not watermelon green”. This shows you that Act really has no idea about how to recruit new voters from anywhere but the extreme right of National’s base.

]]> By: anarkaytie http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-974 anarkaytie Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:31:14 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-974 Ouch! I went to look at this, and youToob have pulled the link. I guess I'll just have to take the comments flame-roll as it stands... dammit! I suspect the website has followed Toad's understanding about the ownership/copyrighting of the concept & image of the advertising we (Green members) paid for. That is all ... ;-) Ouch!
I went to look at this, and youToob have pulled the link.

I guess I’ll just have to take the comments flame-roll as it stands… dammit!

I suspect the website has followed Toad’s understanding about the ownership/copyrighting of the concept & image of the advertising we (Green members) paid for.

That is all … ;-)

]]> By: toad http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-973 toad Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:09:52 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-973 Um, that's not news theimagemaker. That was pointed out in the fourth comment on this thread. The copyright attaches to the image, not to the girl, and it is clearly the same image with a different girl inserted. The copyright to that image belongs to the agency commissioned by the Green Party. Um, that’s not news theimagemaker. That was pointed out in the fourth comment on this thread.

The copyright attaches to the image, not to the girl, and it is clearly the same image with a different girl inserted. The copyright to that image belongs to the agency commissioned by the Green Party.

]]> By: theimagemaker http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-972 theimagemaker Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:44:56 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-972 Hate to point this out but... its a different girl, Rangitoto isn't copyrighted, and the font is widely used. Apart from the concept (where copyright is dodgy at best, even worse when it comes to election campaigns) the ACT party haven't done anything wrong here. Hate to point this out but… its a different girl, Rangitoto isn’t copyrighted, and the font is widely used. Apart from the concept (where copyright is dodgy at best, even worse when it comes to election campaigns) the ACT party haven’t done anything wrong here.

]]> By: Ari http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-970 Ari Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:44:17 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-970 Ah well Graeme, regardless of whether they've broken the law or not, they've certainly proved themselves to be hypocrites. James- I honestly couldn't name a thing about Stalin or his regime that I like. And generally my description is more along the lines of "nerd" than "hippy". And if you heard me laughing when I viewed that ad for the second time and realised their myriad of mistakes, you'd probably be changing your tune. Not to mention we're polling consistently high. Of course, you can still continue to feel smug then, when there's a real possibility of us forming a truly progressive coalition for once. Ah well Graeme, regardless of whether they’ve broken the law or not, they’ve certainly proved themselves to be hypocrites.

James- I honestly couldn’t name a thing about Stalin or his regime that I like. And generally my description is more along the lines of “nerd” than “hippy”.

And if you heard me laughing when I viewed that ad for the second time and realised their myriad of mistakes, you’d probably be changing your tune. Not to mention we’re polling consistently high. Of course, you can still continue to feel smug then, when there’s a real possibility of us forming a truly progressive coalition for once.

]]> By: Graeme Edgeler http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-969 Graeme Edgeler Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:54:50 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-969 Law generally; electoral law particularly; copyight, unfortunately not. Sorry :-) Law generally; electoral law particularly; copyight, unfortunately not.

Sorry :-)

]]> By: greenfly http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-967 greenfly Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:31:28 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-967 James - apologies to your mother, but you are the stupidist commenter I've ever read! James – apologies to your mother, but you are the stupidist commenter I’ve ever read!

]]> By: toad http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-966 toad Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:51:55 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-966 Oh, James, if you can only trot out the tired old labels and are unable to put up any arguments to support them, why don't you just go away (or at least back to the Kiwiblog comments section where you fit in quite well). Anyway, here's what <a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/node/20293" rel="nofollow">Jeanette has to say</a> on it. Oh, James, if you can only trot out the tired old labels and are unable to put up any arguments to support them, why don’t you just go away (or at least back to the Kiwiblog comments section where you fit in quite well).

Anyway, here’s what Jeanette has to say on it.

]]> By: James http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-965 James Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:21:26 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-965 Yaeh right Ari.....you watermelons got a slap back and you can't deal with it nor understand it at all. People are waking up to your Stalinism by stealth undercover of a warm and fuzzy hippie exterior....and its just started comrade! ;-) Yaeh right Ari…..you watermelons got a slap back and you can’t deal with it nor understand it at all.

People are waking up to your Stalinism by stealth undercover of a warm and fuzzy hippie exterior….and its just started comrade!

;-)

]]> By: Ari http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/act-the-party-of-hypocrisy-on-property-rights/#comment-964 Ari Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:37:34 +0000 http://greenvoices.wordpress.com/?p=1140#comment-964 <blockquote>People saw it….its job is done…..diddums pinkos! ;)</blockquote> One: The only thing even remotely pink about the Green Party is our support for women's movements, "diddums". :P Two: I'm glad people saw it. Not just because it's outrageous and hypocritical, but also because they so badly misunderstood our advertising strategy. It's not about the words we're saying- those mostly impact people who've already decided. It's about a straightforward visual message of associating our rivers, forests, and children with the Green Party. Which Act has kindly reinforced for us. That's not even taking into account the fact that they've let us set the agenda and put themselves onto the defensive. However ethically despicable this ad is, strategically speaking they've played right into our hands ;)

People saw it….its job is done…..diddums pinkos! ;)

One: The only thing even remotely pink about the Green Party is our support for women’s movements, “diddums”. :P

Two: I’m glad people saw it. Not just because it’s outrageous and hypocritical, but also because they so badly misunderstood our advertising strategy. It’s not about the words we’re saying- those mostly impact people who’ve already decided. It’s about a straightforward visual message of associating our rivers, forests, and children with the Green Party. Which Act has kindly reinforced for us.

That’s not even taking into account the fact that they’ve let us set the agenda and put themselves onto the defensive. However ethically despicable this ad is, strategically speaking they’ve played right into our hands ;)

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